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My experience at When We Were Young Festival

My experience at When We Were Young Festival by Kevin Andrew

What the fest was really like

By guest writer: Kevin Andrew of Guardrail

Photos by: Kevin Andrew

Bayside performing at WWWY in Las Vegas. Photo: Kevin Andrew

Bayside performing at WWWY in Las Vegas. Photo: Kevin Andrew

When the When We Were Young Festival was announced early this year, I was blown away. It was almost every emo band I’ve loved since high school playing the same festival in one day in Vegas. It took me back to my early Warped Tour days. While I feel like most people were stoked on it, I noticed so much negativity in the comments section, and I really wasn’t sure why. I ended up going to the fest, and now that it’s been a few weeks, I want to reflect on my
experience and touch on the negativity.

My girlfriend Larissa & I flew in late Wednesday night. With the festival being Saturday, we met up with friends & wandered Vegas. On Friday night we attended one of the WWWY late-night shows at Brooklyn Bowl. It started with Strange 90s, which was a cover band with different all-star singers basically doing live-band karaoke (including Jaret Reddick, Stephen Christian, Ronnie Winters, & more), ending with Goldfinger coming out to play a couple songs. This was followed by sets from The Summer Set, Sleeping With Sirens, & one of my favorite bands Story Of The Year. It was a great show, got me even more stoked for the next day.

 

Wind

Saturday morning we met up with friends staying at the Sahara, which was walking distance to the festival grounds. We all JUST met up in the lobby when we got word that the festival was unfortunately canceled for the day. Due to high winds in the area all day clocking in at 40-60 mph, the fire marshal shut it down. Since we were already nearby, we walked over to the grounds and could see how bad the wind was. I’m from the Windy City so let me tell you, it was ROUGH. Dust and debris were flying around everywhere. I saw things falling off construction sites. By mid afternoon there was so much dust in the sky we could no longer see the mountains. As bummed out as I was, it was definitely the right call.

Me (Kevin) getting blown away by the wind

Me (Kevin) getting blown away by the wind

This left tens of thousands of misplaced emos loose in Las Vegas trying to find other things to do, drown their sorrows, & make the best of it. Many bands did not want the day to go to waste, securing pop-up shows all over Vegas. The All-American Rejects played in a restaurant. Hawthorne Heights, Armor For Sleep, & The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus did an acoustic show at the Strat hotel. Senses Fail, Bayside, & Thursday played together at the Sand Dollar on Freemont St. The only downside of this was there were thousands of people trying to
get into these small 400-cap rooms. Regardless, it was a beautiful thing to see.

 

Shane Told’s Hotel Suite

So what did I end up doing? If you’re not familiar with the Lead Singer Syndrome podcast, it’s by Shane Told of Silverstein where he interviews lead singers. Due to being in the podcast’s Patreon group, I’ve gotten to know Shane a bit. Since he knew I was there for the fest, he hit me up saying he was going to bring anyone from the Patreon group that met up at 4:45 PM to his hotel suite, surprising them with an intimate acoustic set. He asked if I wanted to play too, to which I absolutely agreed (although I’d been drinking since 10:30 AM and had no time to rehearse). So I ended up playing some tunes to about 45 people in a Vegas hotel room alongside Shane. It was an experience that I’ll never forget.

Shane Told's hotel suite

Shane Told’s hotel suite Photo: Kevin Andrew

Day 2

By Sunday morning, the weather was looking much better & the WWWY socials posted that the second date of the festival was good to go. Luckily for me, one of my friends got a photo pass and no longer needed her Sunday ticket. She gave us her ticket, so Larissa & I figured we could just take turns going into the fest. I went in first around 1:00. The entrance had pink turf and a big entryway with the festival’s logo on it, for the perfect photo opportunity. I went right over to the Checker Stage to watch Story Of The Year. A sea of thousands of people singing the words to “Until The Day I Die” was insane to be part of. I caught Anberlin and a song of Armor For Sleep before I ran out to meet Larissa.

When We Were Young festival entrance with pink turf

WWWY entrance Photo: Kevin Andrew

I carefully peeled off my re-entry wristband, gave it to her, and she went in to catch Pierce The Veil. I strolled over to Circus Circus to grab some whiskey shooters, a PBR tallboy & a huge pretzel. You could hear the bands playing from the street, so I wandered over there to enjoy my lunch while listening to PTV, The Used, & AFI, striking up conversation with some others doing the same thing. Larissa met back up with me after The Maine. She was able to get her hands on another re-entry wristband, which she gave to me and we both ended up getting in. We watched A Day To Remember, The All-American Rejects, & Avril Lavigne together. She went to watch some of Bring Me The Horizon while I caught some Alkaline Trio before we had to head to the airport.

 

Negative Comments Addressed

Overall, this was a great festival. Despite the first date unfortunately getting shut down, the second date was a pretty standard festival experience. Being it was the first year, there were obviously some minor things that I’m sure they’ll fix for next year. But I didn’t see any real issues. The bands all sounded great. The layout was decent so getting from stage to stage was pretty easy. There were plenty of restrooms and water stations. There were a lot of food vendors, who also had vegan and gluten-free labels on their signs. It really did not deserve the social media hate that it got. I want to address some of the common negative comments I saw:

● “60 bands in one day? How is that possible??” Do you not remember Warped Tour where they did this in 50 cities over the summer?

● “A lot of bands didn’t know they were even playing!” Not true. The bands did not initially know the full lineup. I heard the same story come from multiple bands that they were asked to play a festival in Vegas with MCR, so they were simply surprised to see the full lineup. Most of these bands have a booking agent who handles these things anyway.

● “It’s gonna be like Fyre Fest!” That shitshow was by an actual con artist with zero music festival experience, leaving rich people stranded on an island with little to no resources. WWWY is in downtown Las Vegas. Clearly this is a wild comparison.

● “This is the same people that did Astroworld!” Livenation did put that festival on, yes. But they also run and operate dozens of music venues and festivals across the country. This is like saying that the employees at House of Blues are the ‘same people that did Astroworld’ because it’s a Livenation venue.

These people would rather start with negativity so they can say “I told you so!” if something goes wrong, instead of being happy that such an event is happening. Why is that? I could never imagine living your life that way. Even when the first date was canceled, I saw a lot of “I knew it was a scam!” comments & posts. The tickets were being refunded (I got my refund about a week later), the bands were all there & still were at least paid something, the stages were all set up and ready to go. If anything, the festival LOST money that day. The last thing they wanted was a stage blowing over causing injury or death, especially after the whole Astroworld fiasco.

Also, only one band dropped from the initial announcement, and it was due to illness, nothing to do with the fest itself. Wouldn’t more bands have dropped if it was really a “scam”? I think after Fyre, Astroworld, the recent Woodstock ‘99 documentary, people not attending these events are just begging for another trainwreck to laugh at, which is so gross when people’s careers, well-being, & lives are at stake. Anthony Raneri of Bayside put it best when he tweeted: “Why is everyone acting like the largest promoter in the world and like 60 veteran bands are just winging this?” Exactly.

 

Overall thoughts

Having almost 2 years without live music, attending something like this was a wonderful experience. In a post-Warped world, seeing all those bands playing together was a wild ride for both fans & the bands (I saw a video of Bert from The Used saying something like “this is like Warped Tour on steroids!”). So the moral of the story is that there’s no use being bitter like that, especially when it’s about something that doesn’t even affect you. Just stay home and move on. The dates that didn’t get canceled were successful, so what was gained from the negativity?

They already announced the lineup for next year’s fest (with Green Day & blink-182 headlining), as well as the nü-metal-heavy Sick New World Festival in May with System Of A Down. Hoping that the weather doesn’t stop those from also being successful. Stay happy, see you there!

Sick New World Festival lineup

Sick New World festival lineup

Kevin Andrew

Lead Vocalist of Guardrail/Pop-Punk & Pizza Contributor

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Morning In May talk Dead Set Slander, tour with Makeout, and more

Morning In May

 

Jake, Andrew, John, and Joe from Morning In May, a pop-punk-fused-with-metalcore band based in Cleveland, Ohio, talked with me about their upcoming tour with Makeout, the story behind the song “Jake From State Farm Ruined My Life”, from their upcoming album Dead Set Slander, and more!

Morning In May started out as a solo project of Jake Bartolic, with the EPs Somewhere In Slumber (2020) and I Still Can’t Even (re-released 2021). The band has been signed to ManicKat Records and Needful Things Records in the past, but for this album, they decided to go independent.

When I asked about the challenges of recording this album, Jake exclaimed with a laugh, “Oh my God, all of them! There’s so many!” He went on to explain the challenges they’d had with one of their previous record labels whom he refused to name. “They don’t [deserve] any notoriety at all.” When I asked if there’s a different label they would like to be signed to in the future or if they’d rather stay independent, Jake told me, “I would probably rather stay independent.”

Joe added, “You have all the tools to be able to do everything a record label can do for you.”

Jake continued, “We can go get credit cards if we want. Thats pretty much all you need, pretty much what a label is now. It’s just, ‘Hey we can rack up this amount of money, and hope for the best, and then whether or not it succeeds, whether or not you guys break up, you still owe us money.’ But we’re more pay-as-you-go kind of people.”

From metalcore influences like Kingdom of Giants and The Amity Affliction to pop punk and The Used to Britney Spears, Dead Set Slander is an album you can headbang to as well as dance to.

“We pretty much wrote pop songs in drop tuning. We were like, what tuning does Slipknot play in? So we dropped it all the way down; [and] we were like, let’s write pop songs.”

On top of that, the song titles are great too. The band told me about the story behind “Jake From State Farm Ruined My Life.” 

“It’s stupid, first off,” Jake laughs, “Andrew and I were at a party in LA, and a lot of really cool people were there, so Ice-T from Body Count, or SVU, whatever you want to watch, New Year’s Day, I think Zakk Wylde was there, all these people were there. So we don’t like being just the people in the ‘crowd’, so Andrew and I were like, ‘Let’s take a picture!’ So our manager was there at the time, with a couple of his clients, and we were kind of all together, so we thought it would be cool to take a picture, but more vertical, so we climbed a watchtower, in the venue, that was like a support beam or whatever–it was easy to climb.”

Andrew added, “It was one of those ‘X’ things…like a truss.”

“A truss!” Jake continued, “So we were each other’s support team…in the air. So we got up there, we took a picture, and Andrew went so high that he wasn’t in the picture exactly, it’s just his shoe. So we got escorted out, I don’t like to say kicked out, cause that makes it sound weird, but we got removed, and we thought it was fun. It was cool! And I wrote it, because that’s the reality of stuff, like everybody thinks they’re cool drinkin’ and partyin’ and stuff, but the reality is, you just look like an idiot, kinda dumb, and you’re probably gonna go to the gas station afterwards and get some food. So I was like, why don’t we write a song that’s about the reality of that?”

Andrew added, “But is it not true that literally as a Jake–Jake from State Farm, that commercial– ruined your life? Like, my mom still says that. She’ll be like Jake? From State Farm?”

“Oh!” he nods, “And I wanted to have a fun little title, so whenever I say, ‘Hi, i’m Jake,’ everybody’s like,” he continues in a mocking voice, “‘From State Farm?’ So I hate that…It’s the worst.”

You can watch the full interview on YouTube or listen on Spotify!

Pre-save Dead Set Slander by Morning In May here!

Catch Morning In May on tour with Makeout here!

Noelle Matonis

Pop-Punk & Pizza Podcast Intern